Rejecting the Right God


If anyone is going to reject God, they should at least be sure to reject the right God.


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It occurs to me that the “new atheists” are rejecting the wrong God. They are famous for saying that they don’t believe in the Christian God any more than they believe Zeus or the Flying Spaghetti Monster. It seems to me that, if someone is going to reject God, they ought to be rejecting the right one.

Not all gods are created equal. The Christian concept of God is not on a par with Zeus or a “flying spaghetti monster”, to say the very least. The same can be said of the Islamic view of God or any other major world religion. The concept and “proofs” of God are much more sophisticated than the weak understanding displayed in a comment that likens them to a flying spaghetti monster.

The ignorance of the new atheists about these things is rather shocking, though it shouldn’t be altogether surprising. They admit they find no use for such things as gods and, therefore, and most have spent no time studying or considering them. The ignorance is actually willful, then, and inexcusable.

I can’t do justice to the subject in a short blog, but I will try to summarize. The only serious contenders for consideration as God are the gods of the major world religions. They can’t all be true because they are incompatible with each other[1], so which one, if any of them, is the most likely candidate?

Before getting to summaries, we should acknowledge that some have questioned the idea of an exclusive God on the basis of the variety of conceptions of God that exist. Not only are the various conceptions of God different, they are also mutually exclusive. They may have some appearance of sameness on the surface, but they are fundamentally different.

This shouldn’t come as a surprise as truth is exclusive. An accurate view of gravity, for instance, is exclusive of an inaccurate view of gravity. Not that we can know truth about God in the same way, exactly, as we can know truth about gravity, but conceptually the same premise applies.

Just because people differ on the conception of God is not any evidence against the existence of God. People differ on the origins of the universe, even scientists who do not believe in God. Competing theories of reality do not negate reality. It just means we are still trying to figure it out.

The Eastern religions, like Buddhism, Hinduism, and Daoism are similar in that they conceive of God or gods as forces of nature or one with nature. To that extent we can view them together for the purposes of this article. The two main Eastern religions are Hinduism and Buddhism.

Hinduism has many gods, and those gods are “persons”, those “persons” are more like personalities given to forces of nature. Thus, Hindus see the divine in everything. This, in essence, is like saying that God and the universe are the same thing. Hindus have gods for various aspects of the universe with a supreme god, Vishnu, at the top of a hierarchy of gods. Thus, there are literally millions of gods in Hinduism, with a God of gods (Vishnu) at the top of the pecking order.

The real essence of Hinduism is karma – the moral law of cause and effect. “Life carries its moral bills, and they are paid in the cyclical pattern of death and rebirth until all dues are paid in full. Hinduism … conveys an inherited sense of wrong, which is lived out in the next life, in vegetable, animal, or human form.”[2] Hinduism is fatalistic, and “although karma is seen as a way of paying back, this payback is never complete….”[3]

In Buddhism, the historical proof of the person of Buddha or the authenticity of Buddha is not a concern. The important thing is not whether Buddha lived, but the story. The story is about obtaining enlightenment and becoming one with all things. There is no God in a personal sense; rather “God” is conceived as the elemental substance of nature that is in all and through all. In Buddhism, like Hinduism, God and the essence of nature are one and the same thing. Buddhism is an outgrowth of Hinduism leaving behind the unending karmic cycles.

These are gross oversimplifications, but accurate in essence as I understand them. I have studied world religions, but not recently enough to be able to go into as much detail as I might like in these matters. If you are interested to know more, Ravi Zacharias, a Hindu turned Christian, can speak in detailed understanding and nuance of each Eastern religion (in comparison to Christianity).

Standing against the “Eastern religions” are the monotheistic religions of the “west”. (In truth, all of the major world religions are eastern if we consider that they all arose east of Asia Minor.)

In Judaism is the concept of a monotheistic, personal God, but that God is unapproachable and can only be known from a safe distance. Ancient Hebrews would not even say the name of God, which was symbolized by the letters, Y H W H. They would only pronounce the letters to convey the idea of the wholly “otherness” of God. For the Jews, there is no mediator between God and man. Man is left to his own devices to try to eke out a ritualistic existence in relation to God

In Islam, the “otherness” of God is even more austere. God makes demands, and those demands must be met. All unbelievers are infidels worthy of nothing other than cursing, death or the payment of a ransom to be allowed to live.[4] Allah, the Islamic name for God, is distant, unapproachable and does not stoop down to the level of mere men.[5]

God, in the Christian conception, is different than all other gods. Unlike the Eastern conception, God is personal. He isn’t just a personality; He is a Person, the Supreme Person.

Like other monotheist conceptions of God, He is “the” maximal Being, the creator of everything, but God as understood by Christians did not remain distant and unapproachable. He shed that “otherness” and took on the form of humanity.[6] God can relate to us because He experienced what you and I experience.

In Jesus, we find God entering into the history of His own creation, encountering His own creation at its own level, and fully living out the character of God within His creation for His us to see. “In Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form….”[7] Jesus modeled God, the creator of the universe, for us. We can trust Him and relate to Him because He understands us.

Not that God is on the same level as us. He is still “Other”, holy! In Jesus, however, God provided a mediator, one who could span the gap between man and God, creature and Creator. In Jesus, God stooped down to our level to lift us up to His level and make Himself accessible to us, giving us opportunity to be raised to His level.

As one recent speaker put it, all the world religions claim Jesus and attempt to co-opt Him as their own. Jesus is the universal religious figure. To that extent, this speaker posited to a class on world religions, a person ought to start with Jesus.

The problem with the atheist is their starting place. They start with a definition of God that includes the mythical Zeus and absurdist flying spaghetti monsters. They don’t take the issue seriously, and we can hardly, therefore, take them seriously.

God, by definition, is the uncaused Cause, the maximally great Being. Any other definition for God is not God. Any definition that falls short of those things is not what we are talking about.

Any conception of God as a created being is a conception of something other than God.

Scientists once thought the universe was eternal and uncaused. They now know that the universe had a beginning and, therefore, had a cause (though even great scientists still try to find a way around this conclusion). What does that leave us for an uncaused cause, but God?

From the beginning of Scripture, almost 3500 years ago, we read that God created the universe out of nothing. Before the universe was, God is. The universe – all of space, time and matter – arose from the mind of God who spoke all of space time into being. Intelligent, volitional, personal – we are created in God’s image. This is the Christian conception:

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made.”[8]

Until Jesus, God appeared distant to us. Everything changed when “the Word became flesh and dwelt among us”.[9] If you want to reject the right God, you need to consider Jesus. Not what others say about Him. Read the Gospels for yourself.

Many will reject Jesus out of hand because they have predetermined that miracles don’t happen. If God created the world, however, anything can happen. A naturalistic view of the world is a provincial view of the world. It is a myopic view of the world. It still assumes the world caused itself to exist, which doesn’t match up to science, logic or common sense.

For the new atheist, it’s easy to knock down a Flying Spaghetti Monster or to wrestle Zeus from his perch. They are not maximally great beings. They are not uncaused causes.

The Eastern conception of God does not recognize and respect the difference between creator and creation. It equates the natural world with God and God with the natural world.

The Jewish and Islamic conceptions of God are views from an unapproachable distance. They leave man stranded to struggle on his own, subject to an unrelenting God who has no intimate relation (or no relation at all) with us.

The Christian God is a God who stands outside the natural world, but reveals Himself intimately and personally in the natural world. Unlike the other religions, the Christian conception of God is testable by logic, by science and by personal experience.

So, if anyone is going to reject God, they should at least be sure to reject the right God. If they are going to reject Him with any honesty, integrity and authenticity, they should stop rejecting a myth, caricature or fairy tale, and understand the real thing.

Read the Gospels for what they say, not what others say about them. Consider the evidence for the resurrection without assuming it could never have happened from the start. Let the evidence take you where it leads.

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[1] See Point of Exclusion, by Ravi Zaccharias regarding the exclusivity of all the major world religions.

[2] See How Does Christianity Relate to Hinduism? by Ravi Zacharias January 13, 2012

[3] Ibid.

[4] See Do the Roots of Jihad Lie in the Quran? by Nabeel Qureshi from the HuffPost  April 5, 2017

[5] See Who is Allah in Islam? At the Arabic Bible Outreach Ministry

[6] Speaking of Jesus, “though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. And being found in human form, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.” (Philippians 2:6-11)

[7] Colossians 2:9

[8] John 1:1-2

[9] John 1:14

29 thoughts on “Rejecting the Right God

  1. The reason I prefer Christianity to other religions is because its founder taught that we should love our enemies. Hatred, intolerance, or even indifference just do not work for me.

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    1. curious Certainly each human is opposed to hatred, intolerance, and “I don’t care.” But, loving your enemies is setting oneself to get kicked in the crotch. Do you expect them to love you? Empathy for others is one thing, but love? I suppose you love followers of Islam, but only so long as they don’t get too close? GROG

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    2. Dear “curioushart” nice to hear you “prefer Christianity” though we may wonder what you mean by that, namely Christianity where the teachings of the Nazarene rebbe Jeshua are followed and only One True God worshipped (and not the Trinity) or Christendom where the majority of those calling themselves Christian do not even follow the teachings of Christ and worship Jesus as their god?!

      That Jesus is also not the founder of Christianity neither of Christendom but preached as you say, love and respect for everything and every one. Please also do know there where in history also many other preachers who proclaimed the same moral laws as Christ, though do not belong to Christianity nor Christendom.

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      1. You make a number of assumptions in your response that you would have to support with solid evidence. However, that aside, since all major religions hold Jesus up as a spiritual leader, I would start with the record of Jesus life, the people who claimed to have known him, and begin with those biographical accounts. Those are Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. And can I make an assessment for yourself to Jesus was.

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        1. Those talmidim knew very well the set apart rolls and traditional Judaic literature and believed their rabbi was the sent one from God and the Messiah. they never took him to be their god, like Jesus also never claimed to be God.

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          1. I agree that some of the religious leaders saw Jesus as just a man Conor but I disagree that Jesus characterized himself as just a man look at the words that he spoke. Why did the religious leaders want to stone him? Because they knew and understood exactly what he was saying, that he was equating himself with God the Father.

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              1. Jesus was not afraid to counter the sayings of the Pharisees and Sadducees and did not mind to speak to women on their own and to bring forth awkward questions or putting them in difficult positions.

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              1. Yes, like he requested also to be one with him and with his Father, but that does not make him nor us to be God. It is all about one in thought, like a pupil has to be one with his mentor, and the talmidim were one with their rebbe.

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  2. Who are you willing to call the right God? According to several christians that would be unrightly Jesus, though they should better know that the heavenly Father and Only One true God calls that man of flesh and blood His only begotten beloved son. All over the world can be found other people who have a totally different god as their right god.

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    1. The point of this piece is not to suggest the right God, but to highlight the strawman arguments that atheists make by holding up a god like the fighting spaghetti monster and mocking him. No one thinks there is a flying spaghetti monster God. No one thinks today that Zeus is God. If someone Orange to take the question of God seriously, they should contend with the best arguments for God.

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          1. And Jesus never claimed that he was God but clearly told those around him that there is Only One True God, the God of Israel Who is one (and not two or three) and Who is greater than him (Jesus). That God also knows everything whilst Jesus does not know a lot of things, even does he not know when he would be coming back or who would be seated next to him in his Father’s Kingdom, because all that knowledge belongs to his heavenly Father, the Only One True God.

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  3. From your article it looks like you are confusing The God with a god and/or are taking Jesus as your god, though The God above all gods, who never tells lies, declared Jesus to be His only begotten beloved son. Jesus is the sent one from God and is a son of man, not a god son.

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    1. You are making an interpretation of the phrases Son of God and son of man. Both phrases were used of Jesus. What do they mean? When reading ancient literature, we need to consider what the author likely would have bet, which means having some understanding of the authors culture and cultural context. You can find references to these phrases in the Old Testament writings. Because Jesus was a Jew who descended from those same people, he would have come to them in their contacts and their culture, and they would have understood those phrases in a particular way. We often make a mistake of imposing our own cultural filters, including more recent cultural history, on text and the result is that we may come away and inaccurate assessment of what was meant he read we have to understand the original meaning in the original context in order to have a more accurate interpretation.

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      1. According to the Jews and their writings and from what they could see, the Nazarene Jeshua (Jesus Christ) was a man of flesh and blood. Jesus also found himself to be no spirit or ghost and knew very well his position opposite God Who is his heavenly Father and Who is greater than that rabbi, which he (Jesus) told also to others around him.

        In Christendom we find lots of people who made Jesus into their god, instead of believing Jesus or his heavenly Father, Who never tells lies.

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        1. I agree that many Jews saw Jesus as merely flesh and blood, but I disagree about how Jesus saw himself and that “Christendom” “made Jesus their god”. Start with what Jesus said about himself. Why did the Jewish leaders want to arguingthe him? Because they understood (correctly I believe) that he was equating himself with God, the Father. For instance, Jesus said, “Before Abraham was, I Am.”

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              1. To call oneself a child of god was not common speak. Jesus telling others he was the son of God seemed blasphemous talk like it still does for many Islamists, who do not understand such sonship and think there has to be sex involved to be a son of some one. Implying that God would have had sex with a human being was totally out of order.

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